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Stephanie, I don’t know what you deleted, but I agree on DEI. The column was mostly written by Richard Vigilante, though, so I too may have missed some nuance.

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I deleted my comment because it was a rather reflexive defense of underemployed men, many of whom are really victims of DEI which has sunk deeply into the culture, but I need to reread the column because I know there are subtleties that I missed

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Stephanie,

Almost since we first met I have delighted in your forthrightness. Is your hesitation that you may have been unfair or given my arguments less attention than they "deserved"? Who cares? No doubt as you did I grew up at a dinner table in which debate was loud and fierce (though never personal) and alliances weak and treacherous, I loved it. I miss it.

Besides getting any intelligent comments is great. If a "ready, fire, aim," procedure means you will comment more often, let 'er rip! As ever, R

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On the alleged subtleties, if men backing away from work has multiple intertwining causes, which it must, then trying to craft a policy that correctly identifies and directly counters those causes will just be too hard. "Root Causes" always are. I propose to avoid all that with simple bribery, which may work ... some.

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nooooo....I'll explain what was going on in a personal email at some point.

Ha! I grew up with a family dinner table that was like a debating society too! I sometimes thought PBS (that was when I still liked PBS) should come film us and call the weekly show "The Gutmanns debate issues of the day" or something.

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